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but this is going to be a tougher vote for republicans on the debt ceiling. will he get 25 or 30. >> john: alex we have 20 second left. let me ask you some republicans are talking about another government shutdown. do they not remember howed about that came across in 2011 not to say what newt gringrich did? are they getting desperate. >> well look some of these republicans want to send the white house a message, the message is they're serious about doing this. they'll tell you that their constituents want them to send a strong message to the white house. if they don't they could risk a primary in their own strict come next year. it makes the most season to potentially force a government shutdown. >> john: good guys. michael tomasky and isaac and alex [ voice of dennis ] ...safe driving bonus check? every six months without an accident, allstate sends a check. ok. [ voice of dennis ] silence. are you in good hands? rr >> john: it's awards season and here now the quickest award show in the world. tonight's category, the most discredited talking point. and the n
but this is going to be a tougher vote for republicans on the debt ceiling. will he get 25 or 30. >> john: alex we have 20 second left. let me ask you some republicans are talking about another government shutdown. do they not remember howed about that came across in 2011 not to say what newt gringrich did? are they getting desperate. >> well look some of these republicans want to send the white house a message, the message is they're serious about doing this. they'll tell you that...
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what happens if we have another deal, a debt ceiling deal or something that is of the same milk? >> i'm sensing both -- i can see both sides of the argument with this. i understand wanting to storm the castle, but get the foot in the door first, but at the same time, people like boehner realize they are dancing on the edge of the cliff here so to speak, in trouble of losing the entire base, ultimately the goal of the admintration. they want to divorce the grassroots base from the plan party, looking two years ahead at midterm and looking at tactical issu and not the overall strategy, but a lot of this, nemo, goes back to the state level as well. who are voters going to elect to represent them in two years? how are voters holding elected officials' feet to the fire in their own state? we have to see more of that. ultimately, that's the pathway to get real change in the house, and that's really the way we're going to be able to enforce the values. neil: overcome the mainstream media, cast full of nuts and crazy and the ocupy wall street guys are the normal guys. the world's upside
what happens if we have another deal, a debt ceiling deal or something that is of the same milk? >> i'm sensing both -- i can see both sides of the argument with this. i understand wanting to storm the castle, but get the foot in the door first, but at the same time, people like boehner realize they are dancing on the edge of the cliff here so to speak, in trouble of losing the entire base, ultimately the goal of the admintration. they want to divorce the grassroots base from the plan...
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they will get into squabbles over the debt ceiling, buthey will not deal with the pblem in an essential way. >> i am reading robert carroll's latest book on lbj. it looked like jack kennedy was having the same problem with the congress. evererything was being sidetracked. >> that is true. i would say this as far as what senator obama said in 2006, consistency is the hobgoblin of small mes. but there was a different attitude. we have raised the debt ceiling 70-plus times. the congress has voted to do it. there was always a sense of we are not going to vote e to rai the other guys debt ceiling but there was always the understa that we would provide the votes in the final ananalysis. the president's party y did that. right now, what you have is a situation where the republican party is reduced to its lowest standing in the history of "the wall streeeet journal" nbc poll. the only thing that is worse is john boehner, 18% favorable. this is not a formidable parker. >> "politico" spoke to some unnamed republican leaders and they said that party leadaders have appeared to shut down the governm
they will get into squabbles over the debt ceiling, buthey will not deal with the pblem in an essential way. >> i am reading robert carroll's latest book on lbj. it looked like jack kennedy was having the same problem with the congress. evererything was being sidetracked. >> that is true. i would say this as far as what senator obama said in 2006, consistency is the hobgoblin of small mes. but there was a different attitude. we have raised the debt ceiling 70-plus times. the...
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obama seems to be moving away from it, congress may have squabbled over the debt ceiling, but they are not going to deal with the essential problem in a meaningful way. >> i am reading a book on lbj. jack kennedy was having the same problem with congress. everything was being sidetracked, they were not going anywhere. >> that is true. i would say this, as far as what senator obama said in 2006, consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds. if there was a different attitude. we have raised the debt ceiling 70-plus times. there has always been that sense of we're not going to vote to raise the other guy's debt ceiling, but there was always the understanding that we would provide the votes in the final analysis. the president's party did that. right now, what you have is a situation where the republican party is reduced to its lowest andi in the history of "the wall street journal" poll. the only thing that is worse is john boehner. 18% favorable. this is not a formidable partner. >> over the weekend, "politico" spoke to many advisers and said house republicans and party leaders appear wil
obama seems to be moving away from it, congress may have squabbled over the debt ceiling, but they are not going to deal with the essential problem in a meaningful way. >> i am reading a book on lbj. jack kennedy was having the same problem with congress. everything was being sidetracked, they were not going anywhere. >> that is true. i would say this, as far as what senator obama said in 2006, consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds. if there was a different attitude. we have...
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we just heard the house republicans are going to try to negotiate a short-term debt ceiling deal so they can try to go for a grand bargain. second-term presidencies have just been spent and filled with misspent political capital that has just eoverreach in terms of presidents looking for a legacy and overspending their political capital. that's the risk president obama -- >> interesting in this cnn poll that just come out, how is president obama handling his job as president, approve 53%, disapprove 42%. but when they are asked how is the country headed, right direction 35%, wrong direction, 57%. they approve of the president but think he's going completely in the wrong direction. he's a lucky boy, many would argue, that he's gotten a second term, given the state of the economy, given the fact that most americans think the country is going in the wrong direction. he's been given that lucky second chance. and he campaigned well. you have to give him that. what are his challenges in the second term? >> the first thing every president has to be careful of in a second term, as margaret allud
we just heard the house republicans are going to try to negotiate a short-term debt ceiling deal so they can try to go for a grand bargain. second-term presidencies have just been spent and filled with misspent political capital that has just eoverreach in terms of presidents looking for a legacy and overspending their political capital. that's the risk president obama -- >> interesting in this cnn poll that just come out, how is president obama handling his job as president, approve 53%,...
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. >> sir, you voted for the deal, but you have also said you wouldn't vote to raise the debt ceiling. are you still firm on that? congressman yoho, can you hear me? >> yeah, go ahead. >> i was saying, yeah, you have said that you will not vote to raise the debt ceiling, however you did vote for the fiscal cliff deal. do you still stand firm on the debt ceiling position? >> we, no, sir, i didn't vote for the fiscal cliff deal. i wasn't sworn in yet. but it's like we've said -- >> you said you wouldn't vote for it, if it were you. >> right. i agree. i did not say that, but i didn't vote that way. we've raised the debt ceiling seven times, and it hasn't resolved the problem. the only thing it's done is made us go more in dead. president obama yet on his news conference said raising the debt ceiling will not raise our debt ceiling. all we've raised the debt, we have to may more interest. that in it/will increase the spending. we have a spending problem in this country. that's what we need to address. >> what is your biggest bone of content with john boehner? you've been very public about
. >> sir, you voted for the deal, but you have also said you wouldn't vote to raise the debt ceiling. are you still firm on that? congressman yoho, can you hear me? >> yeah, go ahead. >> i was saying, yeah, you have said that you will not vote to raise the debt ceiling, however you did vote for the fiscal cliff deal. do you still stand firm on the debt ceiling position? >> we, no, sir, i didn't vote for the fiscal cliff deal. i wasn't sworn in yet. but it's like we've...
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you will have the debt ceiling potential deal. liz: hence worries will cause volume at this time to go higher. >> sequester and continuing resolution. you have all this political risk. if you think about the last two, three years, liz, the bottom line, people outperformed, people that generated alpha, bought during periods of political fear. the people that added to the market, added to their exposure to the market during times of complacency typically underperformed. you want to save that powder for those political fear moments. david: save your cash until the debt ceiling thing collapses. maybe three months. want to focus on europe. spain and italy have $2.6 trillion worth of bonds outstanding. 2.6 trillion. they have got to borrow more, about 150 billion, in order to pay off old debts with old bonds. how will they do it. what happens if there is no buyers? >> look at spain. look at lehman. there is so many great comparisons because, --. david: that is not a good thing for spain. >> well, you look back to 2008. the fed bailed ou
you will have the debt ceiling potential deal. liz: hence worries will cause volume at this time to go higher. >> sequester and continuing resolution. you have all this political risk. if you think about the last two, three years, liz, the bottom line, people outperformed, people that generated alpha, bought during periods of political fear. the people that added to the market, added to their exposure to the market during times of complacency typically underperformed. you want to save...
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. >> eric: how about dealing with the debt ceiling and mr. boehner he won't negotiate anymore? >> the president is going to have to reach across the aisle and demonstrate sincerely he will listen and work. he has to show up for negotiations. he was an absent president when it came to negotiating some of the solutions to the big problems during his first term. he has to be part of the solution and work with congress to try to get things done. we watched george w. bush do it when he did it in a controversial election, first term and second term. first term he reached across the aisle and got tax cuts for everyone even though the united states senate switched majority control from republicans to democrats in may of his first year in office. then he worked across the aisle to get education reform done. it can happen, but it takes a president who is willing to be presidential and really lead rather than just demand. >> eric: do you think he can take a page from george w. bush. what did you advise the president at that time and what lessons from that experience that president obama c
. >> eric: how about dealing with the debt ceiling and mr. boehner he won't negotiate anymore? >> the president is going to have to reach across the aisle and demonstrate sincerely he will listen and work. he has to show up for negotiations. he was an absent president when it came to negotiating some of the solutions to the big problems during his first term. he has to be part of the solution and work with congress to try to get things done. we watched george w. bush do it when he...
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eric cantore proposes a three-month deal on the debt ceiling. some democrats are calling it a trap. i'll ask dnc chairwoman debbie wasserman schultz what she thinks. democrats are about to drop the ball. tonight, my message to senator harry reid. plus the american people are getting ripped off by a congress that just isn't working. congressman rick nolan, there 30 years ago. he is back now and he can't believe the difference. he is wondering, are we getting paid for this? >>> is it really an admission of guilt if you don't show any remorse? >> it did not even feel wrong? >> no. it's scary. >> did you feel bad about it? >> no. even scarier. >> psychologist dr. jeffrey gardere on lance armstrong's bizarre performance last night. >> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. republicans surrendered today in one of his biggest fights. president obama warned republicans about taking the debt ceiling hostage. it looks like they heard the message. >> the financial well-being of the american people is not leverage to be used. the full faith and credit of the united states
eric cantore proposes a three-month deal on the debt ceiling. some democrats are calling it a trap. i'll ask dnc chairwoman debbie wasserman schultz what she thinks. democrats are about to drop the ball. tonight, my message to senator harry reid. plus the american people are getting ripped off by a congress that just isn't working. congressman rick nolan, there 30 years ago. he is back now and he can't believe the difference. he is wondering, are we getting paid for this? >>> is it...
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so these massive spending cuts will coincide with another debt ceiling battle. is there anything in this debacle that we can all agree on? >> house speaker john boehner had kind of a rough week here. the at a party folks not happy with the deal that he struck >> the president was able to get the speaker to undo everything he had promised he would do >> where are you? mr. speaker, we need leadership. >> tonight i am ashamed, shame on you, mr. speaker. >> jon: republican or democrat, senator or congressman, team edward or team jacob, everyone agrees john boehner sucks. at least we can be assured that as the incoming congress votes for a new speaker of the house, it's clear what the outcome is going to be. >> john boehner won re-election as house speaker today. >> jon: oh, boy. (train whistle blowing) >> jon: welcome back to the show. listen. as you may recall, a couple months ago america was hit by two major disasters. one of them natural, hurricane sandy and one of them somewhat man made the republican majority in the house of representatives. the second of those
so these massive spending cuts will coincide with another debt ceiling battle. is there anything in this debacle that we can all agree on? >> house speaker john boehner had kind of a rough week here. the at a party folks not happy with the deal that he struck >> the president was able to get the speaker to undo everything he had promised he would do >> where are you? mr. speaker, we need leadership. >> tonight i am ashamed, shame on you, mr. speaker. >> jon:...
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and i think he might, might have had significantly more leverage to deal with the debt ceiling issue then trying that. he didn't test it. just skeptical about how much he'll test it now in the face of a debt ceiling. i hope i'm wrong. i'm skeptical. >> the other big story this afternoon, vice president biden makes the formal recommendations to the president on gun control. what will it take to get meaningful action if that's possible? military man and gun control advocate joe sustek brings his perspective. [ male announcer ] house rule number 46. what's good for the pot... is even better for the cup. new single serve cafe collections from maxwell house. now available for use in the keurig k-cup brewer. always good to the last drop. is efficiently absorbed in small continuous amounts. citracal slow release continuously releases calcium plus d with efficient absorption in one daily dose. citracal slow release. with efficient absorption in one daily dose. i've got two tickets to paradise!l set? pack your bags, we'll leave tonight. uhh, it's next month, actually... eddie continues singin
and i think he might, might have had significantly more leverage to deal with the debt ceiling issue then trying that. he didn't test it. just skeptical about how much he'll test it now in the face of a debt ceiling. i hope i'm wrong. i'm skeptical. >> the other big story this afternoon, vice president biden makes the formal recommendations to the president on gun control. what will it take to get meaningful action if that's possible? military man and gun control advocate joe sustek...
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that were continge ebt upon or in the context of raising the debt ceiling. you yourself four times have done that. three times those were related to deficit reduction or budget maneuvers. there's a new adamant desire on your part not to negotiate when that seems to conflict with the entire history in the modern era of american presidents in the debt ceiling ask your own history on the debt ceiling, and doesn't that suggest that we are going to go into a default situation because no one is talking to each other about how to resolve this. >> well, no, major. i think if you look at the history he went through this just last year, but what's different is we never saw a situation as we saw last year in which certain groups in congress took such an absolutist position that we came within a few days of defaulting. we might default unless we get 100% of what we want. that hasn't happened. now, as i indicated before, i'm happy to have a conversation about how we reduce our deficits further in a sensible way. although one thing i want to point out is that the american
that were continge ebt upon or in the context of raising the debt ceiling. you yourself four times have done that. three times those were related to deficit reduction or budget maneuvers. there's a new adamant desire on your part not to negotiate when that seems to conflict with the entire history in the modern era of american presidents in the debt ceiling ask your own history on the debt ceiling, and doesn't that suggest that we are going to go into a default situation because no one is...
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we're aware that the president will devote his opening statement to raising the nation's debt ceiling which we technically bumped into on new year's eve, they're using sort of bookkeeping mechanisms to deal with it. fiscal cliff showed on. he says congress has an obligation to pay all the bills it's already racked up, period. we'll be covering the president's news conference from both ends of pennsylvania avenue. i want to go to our chif business correspondent ali velshi. why this is so critical important? >> it's important and it's misrepresented so a lot of people all the way from politicians to people's financial advisors will tell you that it's a lot like your credit him or your line of credit. it's not like either of those things, it is a uniquely american phenomenon. most government in the world understand that once you decide to pay for something, once you decide to pass a bill that requires money, you're required to pay for it. in the united states what used to happen is that if there's a deficit, the treasury would have to issue a bond to pay for every sepgal piece of law. pa
we're aware that the president will devote his opening statement to raising the nation's debt ceiling which we technically bumped into on new year's eve, they're using sort of bookkeeping mechanisms to deal with it. fiscal cliff showed on. he says congress has an obligation to pay all the bills it's already racked up, period. we'll be covering the president's news conference from both ends of pennsylvania avenue. i want to go to our chif business correspondent ali velshi. why this is so...
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find thousands of big deals now... at officemax. >>> raising the debt ceiling does not authorize us to spend more. all it does is say that america will pay its bills. and we are not a deadbeat nation. >> well, mr. president, it all depends on who you are talking about. radical republican lawmakers are ready to really trample all over american citizens in order just to get what they want. the republican crusade on the debt ceiling will harm all of these folks. let's go through them tonight. anyone on social security. that means if you're on social security and you live on that fixed income, you won't get the check. how about veterans. i thought -- you know, this is what confuses me. veterans and troops. i always thought the republicans supported the troops. remember those signs "we support the troops"? maybe not anymore. if you're a business owner, the government may default on your loan. that's right. right here. you need that money to continue to meet payroll. of course, that will certainly hurt employment in this country. and that's really what the republicans like. do you have a mor
find thousands of big deals now... at officemax. >>> raising the debt ceiling does not authorize us to spend more. all it does is say that america will pay its bills. and we are not a deadbeat nation. >> well, mr. president, it all depends on who you are talking about. radical republican lawmakers are ready to really trample all over american citizens in order just to get what they want. the republican crusade on the debt ceiling will harm all of these folks. let's go through...
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deal with the debt ceiling issue later, pay the bills first, and have this debate over whether or not it's a good idea, and how it's responsible to actually deal with the federal deficit? >> i think right now, in the united states of america, the people, forget about congress, forget about -- let's talk about the people, the personal financial issues here. they need to know that if they're getting unemployment or they're getting social security, unemployment, not so much, but social security, veterans benefit, small businesses, they need to know that their future is secure. that they're not all of a sudden going to get something and say, sorry, you don't get your paycheck, that they're living on. and when they start to get afraid, they stop spending money. when they stop spending money, the whole economy suffers. so why can't you just say to them, of course we're going to be raising the debt ceiling. we don't actually have a choice. take that fare out of their lives and then let's deal with the problem that they haven't been able to deal with for years now, but hopefully they'll be ab
deal with the debt ceiling issue later, pay the bills first, and have this debate over whether or not it's a good idea, and how it's responsible to actually deal with the federal deficit? >> i think right now, in the united states of america, the people, forget about congress, forget about -- let's talk about the people, the personal financial issues here. they need to know that if they're getting unemployment or they're getting social security, unemployment, not so much, but social...
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that were contingent upon or in the context of raising the debt ceiling. you yourself four times have done that. three times those were related to deficit reduction or budget maneuvers. what chuck and i and i think many people about are this new adamant desire on your part not to negotiate when they seems to conflict with the entire history in the modern era of american presidents on the debt ceiling and your own history and the debt ceiling and doesn't that suggest that we are going to go into a default situation because no one is talking to each other about how to resolve this? >> no, major. i think if you look at the history geing votes for the debt ceiling are always difficult and budgets in this town are always difficult. i went through this just last year. what's different is we never saw a situation as we saw last year in which certain groups in congress took such an absolutist position. that we came within a few days of defaulting. the fact of the matter is, that we have never seen the debt ceiling used in this fashion, where the notion was, you kn
that were contingent upon or in the context of raising the debt ceiling. you yourself four times have done that. three times those were related to deficit reduction or budget maneuvers. what chuck and i and i think many people about are this new adamant desire on your part not to negotiate when they seems to conflict with the entire history in the modern era of american presidents on the debt ceiling and your own history and the debt ceiling and doesn't that suggest that we are going to go into...
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in the fiscal cliff deal and the president's negotiating strategy of not negotiating on the debt ceiling has really put republicans in the corner where they're sort of backing away and saying maybe we can go in another direction but one thing i'm concerned about is when i look back at 2010 and the big losses that democrats sustained there, part of the reason was because we ceded the debate to the republicans and allowed them to frame the conversation around the debt and the deficit and if you look at gallup polling, you can see that the debt and the deficit and government dissatisfaction with government which is another strong place for republicans to fight on are rising, are increasing in importance for voters in terms of what they're concerned about so i'm concerned and wonder if you think this is right, that democrats may be setting themselves up to be on weak terrain sort to speak in terms of 2014 congressional elections by allowing this debate to be focused on the debt and deficit. >> people never stop and always in campaign mode and i think with obama the issue is, he has a campaig
in the fiscal cliff deal and the president's negotiating strategy of not negotiating on the debt ceiling has really put republicans in the corner where they're sort of backing away and saying maybe we can go in another direction but one thing i'm concerned about is when i look back at 2010 and the big losses that democrats sustained there, part of the reason was because we ceded the debate to the republicans and allowed them to frame the conversation around the debt and the deficit and if you...
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we know about the confirmation hearing issues and then the fiscal, the debt ceiling which is fast approaching as well. >> definitely that dance card is getting filled up pretty quickly so early in the year and he hasn't even been inaugurated. also in that article, senator marco rubio preparing his own version of the d.r.e.a.m. act. he discussed how republicans could face some pushback from latinos because of their stance on immigration reform. he said this, quote. we are going to have a struggle speaking to a whole segment of the population about our principles of limited government and free enterprise if they think we don't want them here, alluding to those who might benefit from the d.r.e.a.m. act. so republicans have their own pr campaign to conduct with latinos on immigration reform, but how is the president going to combat republicans who want to see a more piece meal approach as we move forward here? >> reporter: i think we've seen the way the president has handled other recent challenges from his republican opposition when you consider just the fiscal cliff hanger as it were with campa
we know about the confirmation hearing issues and then the fiscal, the debt ceiling which is fast approaching as well. >> definitely that dance card is getting filled up pretty quickly so early in the year and he hasn't even been inaugurated. also in that article, senator marco rubio preparing his own version of the d.r.e.a.m. act. he discussed how republicans could face some pushback from latinos because of their stance on immigration reform. he said this, quote. we are going to have a...
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on the debt ceiling has to have tax loopholes closed. speaker boehner brought the 800 billion in loop whole closures in the beginning of the fiscal cliff negotiation that should be a part of this deal. despite the fact that the president wanted rate increase on the fiscal deal and that's all they want. >> you can see the democrats and white house believe they have the argument in their back pocket. they offered once they can call on it again if they are going to concede on any spending cuts. none have been discussed at least in the short term are going to solve the problem. the only way you solve the problem is by structural entitlement reform. you have to change the trajectory. it is not 50 billion from defense spending there. it would have an impact in our capability in context with the military but the only way you get serious and change the trajectory of the debt is to have entitlement reform. >> what does that take? we are europe and finally we have to do something about it? >> i think charles's point this is a president who wouldn'
on the debt ceiling has to have tax loopholes closed. speaker boehner brought the 800 billion in loop whole closures in the beginning of the fiscal cliff negotiation that should be a part of this deal. despite the fact that the president wanted rate increase on the fiscal deal and that's all they want. >> you can see the democrats and white house believe they have the argument in their back pocket. they offered once they can call on it again if they are going to concede on any spending...
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but i think at the end of the day, the deal made is a debt ceiling increase. but republicans will go through with those sequester cuts. >> yeah. if i could just come. jump in real quick. brian, bandy, jumping 06 of what jimmy had to say here, let's not forget, defaulting on the principle and interest obligation says separate conversation from defaulting on things to other people. say, sending out social security checks. in the context of quote unquote, defaulting on our debt, i'm with jimmy p. as well. missing an interest payment, a very low probability. >> that where some of the confusion seems to be, steve. exact lit public understanding. that why we are here at cnbc to what the risk really is. is someone not going to get their social security check? is the post office not going to be paid? what would happen first? >> brian, a lot of people don't understand because it is complicated. neither side of this depate want you to understand the reality here. on the one hand, the administration wants you to -- doesn't want you to know there are two options here. def
but i think at the end of the day, the deal made is a debt ceiling increase. but republicans will go through with those sequester cuts. >> yeah. if i could just come. jump in real quick. brian, bandy, jumping 06 of what jimmy had to say here, let's not forget, defaulting on the principle and interest obligation says separate conversation from defaulting on things to other people. say, sending out social security checks. in the context of quote unquote, defaulting on our debt, i'm with...
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trying to avert the debt ceiling debate by invoking the 14th amendment, cementing dosh minting the trillion dollar coin -- do you think those are viable options, would you be opposed to them being used? , i don't believe anyone should hold the -- >> i don't believe anyone should hold the american people ransom for what they could not get done in the ballot box. paying for our debts in the past -- for things we did, we borrowed money. republicans and democrats alike past these budgets -- passed these budgets. in our publicans are saying they don't want to pay for the things they voted for -- now republicans are saying they don't want to pay for things they voted for in past budget. to allow them to put conditions on the balance deal by saying we are going to ask for a ransom, devastating cuts to social security and medicare, in order to cover costs for things like the bush tax cuts, unpaid wars in iraq and afghanistan -- i agree with the president. the american people should not be held hostage with this game of using the debt ceiling as a way to try to extract what you could not get through
trying to avert the debt ceiling debate by invoking the 14th amendment, cementing dosh minting the trillion dollar coin -- do you think those are viable options, would you be opposed to them being used? , i don't believe anyone should hold the -- >> i don't believe anyone should hold the american people ransom for what they could not get done in the ballot box. paying for our debts in the past -- for things we did, we borrowed money. republicans and democrats alike past these budgets --...
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the fiscal cliff and sandy relief votes do provide a template for how, by the way, the debt ceiling might ultimately get raised. on the tax deal, house republican leaders had political cover from senate republicans. on sandy, chris christie provided the political cover, leaving house leaders, frankly, cowering. now the kotch brothers, through a group they backed, called americans for prosperity, are the latest to give boehner and other house leaders cover on the debt ceiling, as they get their rank and file to pick other political fights. tim phillips, president of americans for prosperity, told the financial times, quote, we're saying calibrate your message, focus on long-term spending instead of long-term debt. focusing on the debt ceiling makes the message more difficult. when i asked walden about the debt ceiling yesterday, he was clearly noncommittal, hinting on where the republican leadership maybe is on this. if there's not a majority in the house republican to raise the debt limit, but there is a majority in the house of representatives to raise a clean debt limit, would this lead
the fiscal cliff and sandy relief votes do provide a template for how, by the way, the debt ceiling might ultimately get raised. on the tax deal, house republican leaders had political cover from senate republicans. on sandy, chris christie provided the political cover, leaving house leaders, frankly, cowering. now the kotch brothers, through a group they backed, called americans for prosperity, are the latest to give boehner and other house leaders cover on the debt ceiling, as they get their...
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. >> narrator: the new republicans in congress were threatening to vote against raising the debt ceiling. if congress didn't act by august 2, the federal government would be unable to pay its bills. >> in 2010, when all these republicans were running for congress, many of them avowed tea partiers and the rest of them riding the tea party wave, the subject of the impending debt ceiling came up frequently and virtually all of them campaigned saying... pledging not to raise the debt ceiling. >> narrator: early on, republican freshmen attended orientation sessions. republican strategist frank luntz ran one of them. >> and i asked the question, how many of you are going to vote for the debt ceiling? and only three or four of them raised their hands. and i said, if you vote for the debt ceiling, the people who put you in office are going to knock you out. >> if you vote for the debt ceiling, you're voting for your own death certificate, political death certificate. >> narrator: for his part, the president decided to try something new: personal politics. he figured he could connect to the repub
. >> narrator: the new republicans in congress were threatening to vote against raising the debt ceiling. if congress didn't act by august 2, the federal government would be unable to pay its bills. >> in 2010, when all these republicans were running for congress, many of them avowed tea partiers and the rest of them riding the tea party wave, the subject of the impending debt ceiling came up frequently and virtually all of them campaigned saying... pledging not to raise the debt...
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so they are putting it right back on congress, you've got to deal with this debt ceiling issue and they think they can win that argument. obviously we're going to hear questions about guns. we flknow that the president's people say he is committed to the assault weapons ban, magazine ban on the magazines and also to background checks, whether or not those and other issues can get through, they don't think that there's much he can do by executive action. >> andrea mitchell, see you at 1:00. thanks for joining me. >> thanks, thomas. >>> want to take you back now to the white house. peter alexander is standing by now. now we're getting word the press conference has been pushed back to 11:40. just to give people behind the curtains look here. 11:15 and then 11:30 and now 11:40. i'm saying hi noon. >> high noon sounds good in is often the way this plays out. this morning it came as a surprise to most of the in the white house press corp. was was taking place tonight. he hadn't been given a head unthere would be a news conference with the today until just this morning. really there hasn't bee
so they are putting it right back on congress, you've got to deal with this debt ceiling issue and they think they can win that argument. obviously we're going to hear questions about guns. we flknow that the president's people say he is committed to the assault weapons ban, magazine ban on the magazines and also to background checks, whether or not those and other issues can get through, they don't think that there's much he can do by executive action. >> andrea mitchell, see you at...
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ceiling which tends to be popular. people -- you know, the american public, they hear debt ceiling and they think no, let's not do that. that sounds awful to give government more money to spend. he's trying to turn it around. but it absolutely is a dynamic that he exemplploited when he w senator. >> robert costa, let's look at this for a minute. republicans have a tricky situation. because the country does not want us to default. and this whole business of managing accounts and prioritizing, there's 80 million payment accounts. i know the interest on the debt will be paid, but to some extent the gop has got to watch itself, robert. they could come really at the wrong end of a massive public relations blunder. >> that's exactly right, larry. the president's press conference today really was first battle in this public relations war. what matters is that the president is out there for an hour, making his case to the american people. what the republicans need to do a better job is making their case. now, it's easy to poin
ceiling which tends to be popular. people -- you know, the american public, they hear debt ceiling and they think no, let's not do that. that sounds awful to give government more money to spend. he's trying to turn it around. but it absolutely is a dynamic that he exemplploited when he w senator. >> robert costa, let's look at this for a minute. republicans have a tricky situation. because the country does not want us to default. and this whole business of managing accounts and...
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that were contingent upon or in the context of raising the debt ceiling. you yourself has done that. we are curious about this new adamant design on your part not to negotiate. doesn't that suggest that we will go into a default situation because no one is talking to each other about how to resolve this? >> no. i think if you look at the history, getting there is always difficult. budgets are always difficult. i went through this just last year. the fact of the matter is, we have never seen the debt ceiling used in this fashion where the notion was, you know what, we may default unless we get 100% of what we want. that has not happened. now, as i indicated before, i am happy to have a conversation about how we reduce our deficit further. the american people are also concerned about how we grow our economy, how we put people back to work how we finance our workers getting properly trained and our schools are giving the education they need. what you have never seen is the notion that has been presented so far, at least, by the republicans that deficit reduct
that were contingent upon or in the context of raising the debt ceiling. you yourself has done that. we are curious about this new adamant design on your part not to negotiate. doesn't that suggest that we will go into a default situation because no one is talking to each other about how to resolve this? >> no. i think if you look at the history, getting there is always difficult. budgets are always difficult. i went through this just last year. the fact of the matter is, we have never...
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but at the time, the debt ceiling story had not been fully told. at the beginning of that fight, the poll was something like -- he asked the public, should the debt ceiling be raised? 85-15 against. the president was really on the wrong side. by the end of it, it had evened out in the polls and republicans ended up being blamed more so. and the economy was also in a more fragile position than it even is now. the president and people around him were much worried about what a default might do in terms of a financial crisis here and abroad. fast forward to now, and i think the president won the message debate. he convinced the public that playing, you know, hostage-taking with the debt ceiling was the wrong thing to do, and he also now has the business community, all of those people watching the vix who don't want to go through that again. so he's in a much stronger position now to take back the stance that he felt back then. circumstances have made it easier for him to play this game of chicken and actually, at least, win for the next three months. >
but at the time, the debt ceiling story had not been fully told. at the beginning of that fight, the poll was something like -- he asked the public, should the debt ceiling be raised? 85-15 against. the president was really on the wrong side. by the end of it, it had evened out in the polls and republicans ended up being blamed more so. and the economy was also in a more fragile position than it even is now. the president and people around him were much worried about what a default might do in...
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with the debt ceiling. how he is putting his foot down and moving forward, all of the i shall shoes that we want to see changed. i think this is the time. we have a new president. and there's a song that says what are they doing in heaven today? and i'm sure dr. martin luther king, jr., today was cheering the watch party. >> the president, as we're speaking, you're seeing the president is leaving the viewing stand, the parade is over. and he is leaving the viewing stand. that's a live shot of the president and the vice president. leaving the viewing stand and shortly we'll go in and get prepared for the inaugural bats tonight. there will be two of them that the president has publically announced. he will attend the military ball and the regular presidential ball. governor rendell, you've watched and worked with presidents as governor, as the chair of the dnc. tell us from your vantage point the difference between president obama and 2009 and his first inaugural and the president obama we saw today? >> well,
with the debt ceiling. how he is putting his foot down and moving forward, all of the i shall shoes that we want to see changed. i think this is the time. we have a new president. and there's a song that says what are they doing in heaven today? and i'm sure dr. martin luther king, jr., today was cheering the watch party. >> the president, as we're speaking, you're seeing the president is leaving the viewing stand, the parade is over. and he is leaving the viewing stand. that's a live...
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but at the time, the debt ceiling story had not been fully told. at the beginning of that fight, the poll was something like -- he asked the public, should the debt ceiling be raised, 85-1r5, against. the president was really on the wrong side. by the end of it, it had evened out in the polls and republicans ended up being blamed more so. and the economy was also in a more fragile position than it even is now. the president and people around him were much worried about what a default might do in terms of a financial crisis here and abroad. fast forward to now, and i think the president won the message debate. he convinced the public that playing hostage taking with the debt ceiling was the wrong thing to do. and he also now has the business community, all those people watching the vix who don't want to go through that again. he is in a much strorpg position now to take that stance that he felt back then. circumstances have made it easier for him to play this game of chicken and actually, at least, win for the next three months. >> even that is fasc
but at the time, the debt ceiling story had not been fully told. at the beginning of that fight, the poll was something like -- he asked the public, should the debt ceiling be raised, 85-1r5, against. the president was really on the wrong side. by the end of it, it had evened out in the polls and republicans ended up being blamed more so. and the economy was also in a more fragile position than it even is now. the president and people around him were much worried about what a default might do...